Jump to content

Talk:Outline of The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire

Page contents not supported in other languages.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Untitled

[edit]

For a May 2005 deletion debate over this page see Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire (Outline)


I would like to see which chapters go with which volume. I downloaded the gutenberg editions and some chapters seem to be missing between the V and VI volumes.


—Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.242.232.141 (talk) 18:16, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

What translation are you using? The translation I have by Mueller there are 6 Volumes covering 71 chapters. Vol 1 is Ch.1-6, Vol 2 is 17-26, etc.. this seems to differ from whats in the article. The most authoritative version, the one closest to Gibbons original words when it was first released, is the unabridged Penguin Books translation. Other translations will organize it in other ways. Anyway this is a sticky problem I would not know how to resolve properly. Stbalbach 04:50, 15 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

  • The version I'm using is the 3 volume set from J.B. Bury. The chapters are numbered from 1-71 (first volume is 1-26, etc.). To avoid confusion, I just removed the volume breaks in the article. Maybe put a section at the beginning about how it is broken up into volumes for the different versions? --JW1805 05:51, 15 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
    • Yeah Bury is a good version it was the standard for a long time. Agreed good idea about a section that lists the translations and how they break up the volumes. Fill in what we know and let others add more later. Stbalbach 15:32, 15 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps Gibbon's original breakdown would be the most useful? I'm not sure whether reflects any sort of authorial intent vs the practicalities of publishing, but certainly it has a greater claim of authorial intent than the other. Also, as the modern editions don't use that breakdown this is simply a more useful division to document for the modern reader. Sonarpulse — Preceding undated comment added 16:01, 25 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Spelling

[edit]

I've used Gibbon's spellings for everything, even though many of the foreign names are now spelled differently. I've tried to link everything to the correct pages.

Just a note: I have the H. H. Milman edition, but it says it was published in 1854, not in 1846. It is the 6 volumn set, printed in Boston at Phillips, Sampson, and Company, and stereotyped at the Boston Stereotype Foundry. B. Stephenson, Margate, Florida. 70.149.86.122 (talk) 03:37, 21 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Quick explanation of Wikipedia outlines

[edit]

"Outline" is short for "hierarchical outline". There are two types of outlines: sentence outlines (like those you made in school to plan a paper), and topic outlines (like the topical synopses that professors hand out at the beginning of a college course). Outlines on Wikipedia are primarily topic outlines that serve 2 main purposes: they provide taxonomical classification of subjects showing what topics belong to a subject and how they are related to each other (via their placement in the tree structure), and as subject-based tables of contents linked to topics in the encyclopedia. The hierarchy is maintained through the use of heading levels and indented bullets. See Wikipedia:Outlines for a more in-depth explanation. The Transhumanist 00:01, 9 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The "Gibbon Chronology"

[edit]

The "Gibbon Chronology" in this article doesn't seem to be within scope, and is largely (entirely?) covered in prose at Edward Gibbon. It has been in the article since 2007, but the addition was not explained at the time. Is their any objection to its removal? Caeciliusinhorto (talk) 20:32, 30 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds reasonable; there are better places for it than this article. P Aculeius (talk) 02:23, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]