Talk:Mode (music)

Mystic nonclassical mode (it has 3 submodes)

Please include it, make all proper files (if you have a different Mystic mode, name that one Sigil mode, otherwise keep it Mystic)

• do, re#, mi, sol, sol#, ti
• do, do#, mi, fa, sol#, la
• do#, re, fa, fa# la, la#

mood: mysterious

Evil Shaolin nonclassical mode (it has 2 submodes)

Please include it, make all proper files

• do, re, re#, fa, fa#, sol#, la, ti
• do#, re, mi, fa, sol, sol#, la#, ti

mood: horrorish (not pure horror; to horrorize it add chromatic ornaments and off-scale the semitonal intervals: 0-13, 0-11, 0-1, 0-6, 0-3, 0-4 (zero means starting note, and number means semitonal steps backwards or forwards)

Jumping Images

Even with autoplay disabled, the list of example modes jumps about as the page loads in Firefox. 138.88.18.245 (talk) 21:36, 22 November 2021 (UTC)

This behaviour happens when a page has both sound output from <score>...</score> and from mw:Extension:TimedMediaHandler. There's a discussion at phab:T245377. A resolution might be some time off. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 01:34, 23 November 2021 (UTC)

Is there some symbol in modern music notation which would indicate that our current mode needs to be changed?

Hello to everyone. Can I please ask a specific question regarding to musical modes? I just wonder if the modern standard musical notation has or could have a sign or a symbol which would indicate that we must change the mode.

Let me explain myself. I have heard that "Marsellaise" starts in major (Ionian), so maybe C-dur (I assume), but then somewhere in the middle of the anthem it briefly changes to minor (Aeolian), so it can be a-moll for instance... Then it returns to the major scale.

I have also heard that both Syria's and Trinidad and Tobago's anthems may nearly have the same property.

So if for instance we must shift a couple of times between C-dur and a-moll (preserving the same key signature), shouldn't the composer indicate the exact places/moments when the musicians have to change their mode?

Wouldn't a musician be imprisoned if he or she kept playing his/her national anthem in the now incorrect major scale while the tune had already temporarily shifted to the minor scale?

I think my question may be pretty clear but sorry for grammar mistakes anyway (prepositions, articles etc.). I am simply curious! 2A00:1858:1047:9BEF:3145:7F8D:4645:3ED9 (talk) 06:09, 7 September 2024 (UTC)

Musicians do not need to know where the mode changes. You must see this with reference to the diatonic scale. If, for instance, the change of mode is from C major to A minor, the scale mainly remains the same and the musician does not need to change anything. But the A-minor becomes obvious only where the score includes the leading tone of the new key, e.g. G♯ in A minor. A minor then becomes obvious because the music leaves the diatonic scale and G♯ may be considered the sign of the change of mode.

The Marseillaise does not change from C major (if you play or sing it in C) to A minor, but to C minor. In that case, the sign of the change is that E is replaced by E♭ – and the scale, once again, is no more fully diatonic. I don't know the other anthems, but they might not use the diatonic scale at all and the change might not be from major to minor. If the piece really is modal (say, being in an Arab mode), then it is rather unusual to change the mode – truly "modal" pieces are in only one mode. — Hucbald.SaintAmand (talk) 10:04, 7 September 2024 (UTC)