Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Venus (planet)
Good intro; lots of good info and images. --Doradus 16:15, Nov 4, 2004 (UTC)
- Support Filiocht 15:23, Nov 5, 2004 (UTC)
Object for now. The external links that served as references need to go to a references section, along with any print refs that were used. Also, could the Recent flybys and Future missions subsections be merged? They're both very short. Filiocht 16:22, Nov 4, 2004 (UTC) - Support JoJan 19:27, 5 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Support. Zerbey 21:34, 5 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Support. Geogre 15:18, 6 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Support. The history section is nice, and the 'Venus in fiction', while small, contains the most basic facts. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 18:48, 6 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Support ZayZayEM 07:05, 8 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Lots of dates are not wikified so they don't display according to my preferences. Are there no paper references that should be included? (I also I have a niggling feeling that it is not comprehensive enough, but can't quite put my finger on what is missing: some of the sections and paragraphs are certainly rather short. I'll support if I can't think of something to add when my objections are addressed.)-- ALoan (Talk) 00:54, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)- Support (99% of dates now wikified) -- Martin TB 17:03, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Oppose. Cultural references (I changed the heading from Venus in fiction) is rather incomplete. I assume that Venus, the brightest "star" in the sky, has been a topic in many cultures and mythologies, yet this section talks only about English / Western culture. — David Remahl 21:13, 10 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Venus (mythology) deals with the many of the mythological/religious aspects - that renamed section really does deals with Venus in works of fiction rather than its wider culture influence. However, much as I hate to bring it up, I can't see where astrology and alchemy and so on are dealt with - they don't seem to be referred to in either article, and arguably relate more to the planet than mythology. - ALoan (Talk) 10:04, 11 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Someone re-renamed the section "Venus in fiction". My intention with renaming it, was that it should be _exanded_ to cover more. It still focuses solely on western novels. Fiction is too narrow, I believe. For example, it does not cover Venus from Gustav Holst's The Planets (classical music). Furthermore, it would be POV to call mythology "fiction" (even though I think it is appropriate). The NPOV policy entails including not only the _currrent_ points of views, but important viewpoints from history. My objection thus stands. — David Remahl 16:50, 11 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Sorry, I have put it back. --Doradus 17:37, Nov 11, 2004 (UTC)
- Someone re-renamed the section "Venus in fiction". My intention with renaming it, was that it should be _exanded_ to cover more. It still focuses solely on western novels. Fiction is too narrow, I believe. For example, it does not cover Venus from Gustav Holst's The Planets (classical music). Furthermore, it would be POV to call mythology "fiction" (even though I think it is appropriate). The NPOV policy entails including not only the _currrent_ points of views, but important viewpoints from history. My objection thus stands. — David Remahl 16:50, 11 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Venus (mythology) deals with the many of the mythological/religious aspects - that renamed section really does deals with Venus in works of fiction rather than its wider culture influence. However, much as I hate to bring it up, I can't see where astrology and alchemy and so on are dealt with - they don't seem to be referred to in either article, and arguably relate more to the planet than mythology. - ALoan (Talk) 10:04, 11 Nov 2004 (UTC)