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Someone please add a sentence using this as a reference here. I dunno how.

Evidence for reincarnation in the Bible

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e.g. (translated) Book of Jeremiah 1:5 /714./ “Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you came out of the womb I sanctified you; I appointed you as a prophet among the nations." In other words, life does not begin with conception, new life continues with conception. 89.134.100.78 (talk) 11:45, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not a reliable source. --Hob Gadling (talk) 11:59, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Problems

There were some personal interpretations of passages from the Bible that I have removed. However, there remains a passage that reads more like a personal essay trying to prove a certain position than an NPOV Wikipedia section:

In Greco-Roman thought, the concept of metempsychosis disappeared with the rise of Early Christianity, reincarnation being incompatible with the Christian core doctrine of salvation of the faithful after death. It has been suggested that some of the early Church Fathers, especially Origen, still entertained a belief in the possibility of reincarnation, but evidence is tenuous, and the writings of Origen as they have come down to us speak explicitly against it.^[1]

As can be seen in the below footnote, two authors, Macgregor and MacLaine, are said to be making "allegations" for their opinion. If this is to be kept, it surely need to be written in a more scholarly manner and in a less tendentious way. Surely, a contentious matter such as this deserves better sources. Berig (talk) 13:09, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ The book Reincarnation in Christianity, by the theosophist Geddes MacGregor (1978) asserted that Origen believed in reincarnation. MacGregor is convinced that Origen believed in and taught about reincarnation but that his texts written about the subject have been destroyed. He admits that there is no extant proof for that position. The allegation was also repeated by Shirley MacLaine in her book Out On a Limb. Origen does discuss the concept of transmigration (metensomatosis) from Greek philosophy, but it is repeatedly stated that this concept is not a part of the Christian teaching or scripture in his Comment on the Gospel of Matthew (which survives only in a sixth-century Latin translatio): "In this place [when Jesus said Elijah was come and referred to John the Baptist] it does not appear to me that by Elijah the soul is spoken of, lest I fall into the doctrine of transmigration, which is foreign to the Church of God, and not handed down by the apostles, nor anywhere set forth in the scriptures" (13:1:46–53, see Commentary on Matthew, Book XIII

Roman Catholic Church

Witht the oldid of 24 October 2024 it was added the section titled "Roman Catholic church":

Citing Hebrews 9,27 ("27 And as it is appointed for men to die once, but after this the judgment, 28 so Christ was offered once to bear the sins of many. To those who eagerly wait for Him He will appear a second time, apart from sin, for salvation."), the Catechism of the Catholic Church completely rejects any doctrine of reincarnation.^[1]

The prevoius WP article didn't mention the official position of the Roman Catholic Church on reincarnation -as it is very clearly expressed in the Cathechism (at n°. 1013)-, nor it mentioned Hebrews 9,27-28, which is one of the more meaningful biblical statements concerning the subject matter.

Sot, those aspect have been integrated into the WP article.

References

^ "Catechism of the Catholic Church". United States Conference of Catholic Bishops. p. 264. There is no "reincarnation" after death (n°. 1913).

80.183.18.77 (talk) 11:14, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[1] The book Reincarnation in Christianity, by the theosophist Geddes MacGregor (1978) asserted that Origen believed in reincarnation. MacGregor is convinced that Origen believed in and taught about reincarnation but that his texts written about the subject have been destroyed. He admits that there is no extant proof for that position. The allegation was also repeated by Shirley MacLaine in her book Out On a Limb. Origen does discuss the concept of transmigration (metensomatosis) from Greek philosophy, but it is repeatedly stated that this concept is not a part of the Christian teaching or scripture in his Comment on the Gospel of Matthew (which survives only in a sixth-century Latin translatio): "In this place [when Jesus said Elijah was come and referred to John the Baptist] it does not appear to me that by Elijah the soul is spoken of, lest I fall into the doctrine of transmigration, which is foreign to the Church of God, and not handed down by the apostles, nor anywhere set forth in the scriptures" (13:1:46–53, see Commentary on Matthew, Book XIII

[2] "Catechism of the Catholic Church". United States Conference of Catholic Bishops. p. 264. There is no "reincarnation" after death (n°. 1913).

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