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After Expulsion

So, once the clusters of body thetans are exorcised by the patient, with help from highly experienced practitioners *, where do they go ?

According to Thetan they, and we, are immortal souls, sinless ( since body thetans are sent involuntarily ) and who are just in the wrong place at the wrong time. So they can fortunately not be extinguished.

A thetan can be incarnated many times over lifetimes and does not cease to exist at body-death, nor go to a heaven or hell.

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When a thetan abandons its physical body—they go to a "landing station" on the planet Venus, where the thetan is re-implanted and told lies about its past life and its next life. The Venusians take the thetan, "capsule" it, and send it back to Earth to be thrown into the ocean off the coast of California. They quote Hubbard as saying, "If you can get out of that, and through that, and wander around through the cities and find some girl who looks like she is going to get married or have a baby or something like that, you're all set. And if you can find the maternity ward to a hospital or something, you're OK. And you just eventually just pick up a baby."

But that seems to refer to ordinary operating thetans, like you and me. Nothing is said about these free thetans.

Now, Xenu may have been imprisoned in an electronic mountain trap these past 75 million years, though one hopes this is not in perpetual torment --- Mr. Hubbard being a rather vindictive fellow --- but he was a mighty sinner: as said, these body thetans have not erred.

The Scientologist is directed to find a cluster of body thetans, address it telepathically as a cluster, and take first the cluster, then each individual member, through Incident II, then Incident I if needed. Hubbard warns that this is a painstaking procedure, and that OT levels IV to VII are necessary to continue dealing with one's body thetans.
Xenu

Understandably this takes a great deal of effort from the auditors, and it is obviously right that they are forced to charge high voluntary donations; but presumably the disincarnated souls have to go somewhere.

Claverhouse (talk) 02:51, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Well, when you find out and can provide a reliable source on that, let us know. ▶ I am Grorp ◀ 06:37, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sources

Lamont^[1] and Atack^[2] both have information about body thetans, and could be used as a source for citing in this article. ▶ I am Grorp ◀ 09:52, 15 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Lamont, Stewart (1986). Religion Inc. : The Church of Scientology. Harrap. ISBN 0245543341. OL 2080316M.
^ Atack, Jon (1990). A Piece of Blue Sky: Scientology, Dianetics and L. Ron Hubbard Exposed. Lyle Stuart Books. ISBN 081840499X. OL 9429654M.

[lamont-1] Lamont, Stewart (1986). Religion Inc. : The Church of Scientology. Harrap. ISBN 0245543341. OL 2080316M.

[atack-2] Atack, Jon (1990). A Piece of Blue Sky: Scientology, Dianetics and L. Ron Hubbard Exposed. Lyle Stuart Books. ISBN 081840499X. OL 9429654M.

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